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August 09, 2007

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Realist

Skin color wasn't the defining characteristic of the attendees of the meeting. Home ownership was.

People who have a personal and financial stake in the city are more likely to be involved as they are stuck with the bills associated with ineffective government and failing schools.

If you really want a populist process. (Which you may not, as it is likely to degrade into a bitch-fest) You need to use more approachable vocabulary... throwing around acronyms like "SDAT" and obscure terminology like "charette" sounds elitist and intimidating to people with poor education backgrounds.

Miriam Axel-Lute

You make a good point about the homeownership divide. It does often make a difference, in neighborhood association participation too. I'd be curious though, to know if just the racial gap in homeownership would be enough to cause as stark a racial difference as we saw there.

Also, there is a whole set of active renters who do have a stake in the city and who do participate in certain venues. And frankly, if they're not obsessed with tax bills and property values, sometimes they can be more flexible and creative in what they're willing to talk about and consider. (I'm a homeowner, for what it's worth, and I know tax bills and property values are important. But sometimes they are used to stop conversation.)

A truly populist process can be a headache--I won't deny it. That's why I keep harping on structured, facilitated, focused meetings. Even people who can happily derail something into a good bitch fest can generally contribute meaningfully if asked the right questions and kept on topic.

Vocabulary: check. As observed previously, definitely on the list.

Corruptant

Ok, this is Albany, enough said. There will be no open discussion and grand king Jerry will say what goes where and his minions will follow him. Albany isn't like many other places, its not a populist city. Albany is ran like the former Soviet Union. All the shots are called from the top and those that fail to fall in line are excommunicated from the city. Our leaders are hacks through and through. Most peopl in positions of power in Albany are from the same political families that hijacked the city during the era of Dan O'connell. Nothing ever changes in Albany and it won't until people wise up and vote these people out of power. Maybe then, we might have our say. Until then be prepared for alot of BS and lies, because thats what Albany is about (well its also known as a city full of slums, cracktown USA, and a 16 year olds booze filled paradise). Welcome to Albany, make sure to tip the bartender and the politician because thats the only way you will get anything.

Corruptant

Ok, this is Albany, enough said. There will be no open discussion and grand king Jerry will say what goes where and his minions will follow him. Albany isn't like many other places, its not a populist city. Albany is ran like the former Soviet Union. All the shots are called from the top and those that fail to fall in line are excommunicated from the city. Our leaders are hacks through and through. Most peopl in positions of power in Albany are from the same political families that hijacked the city during the era of Dan O'connell. Nothing ever changes in Albany and it won't until people wise up and vote these people out of power. Maybe then, we might have our say. Until then be prepared for alot of BS and lies, because thats what Albany is about (well its also known as a city full of slums, cracktown USA, and a 16 year olds booze filled paradise). Welcome to Albany, make sure to tip the bartender and the politician because thats the only way you will get anything.

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